
This article was published in Good Bird Magazine in spring of 2006. I wanted to share it to help people address their parrot's screaming behavior problems without having to spend a lot of money on a new marketing ploy. The information is out there and has been here for quite some time. How to address screaming behavior problems is also explained in my book "Good Bird! A Guide to Solving Behavior Problems in Companion Parrots" Published in 2004. There are no secrets here!
Also you can download another great article for free on screaming behavior written by Lee McGuire and Susan Friedman, PhD at this link http://www.goodbirdinc.com/digitalmedia.html. It is called the S Files Addresses Loud Repetitive Vocalizations.
Wow. That Bird Sure Can Scream!
By Barbara Heidenreich
“Screaming. Somebody reinforced the heck out of that behavior.” I said to myself. Misty, a double yellow headed Amazon parrot, lived with me for only a few weeks. She was there so that I could put some of her vocal behaviors on cue. However it quickly became apparent she had a few other behaviors that needed to be addressed first. Before her stay with me she resided with Jill Bell for six years. Prior to that time her history is pretty fuzzy. She is estimated to be 19 years old. This meant screaming could have been reinforced for at least 13 years. It must have been, because it was STRONG. Misty was relentless. I’d leave the room; she’d scream and scream and scream.
She had been a good reminder of what companion parrot owners experience when faced with a very annoying and challenging problem. It can be very frustrating. Oddly enough, when I walk into someone else’s home and hear screaming birds I am usually not effected. But when a bird is screaming specifically, in what feels like a demanding way, to get my attention, it strikes a nerve. How does one find the patience to be a good trainer in those situations? It is not easy, but definitely necessary.
My mantra with Misty was “I am solving the problem. Getting angry or letting that knot in my gut sway my strategy will not give me the desired results. I am confident what I am doing will work. It has worked before with other birds I have trained. Hang in there!”
And it is true, my blue fronted Amazon parrot Tarah also learned to scream for attention. Completely through my own ignorance I reinforced screaming. I acquired Tarah, as many people do, when he was offered to me for free. At the time I was working in a veterinary hospital. One of my co-workers also worked part time in a pet store. Someone had walked in off of the street and sold her the bird for $100. Was the bird stolen, smuggled or desperately unwanted? I don’t know. My co-worker found she was overwhelmed with too many animals in her home and asked if I would be interested in watching the bird for awhile. (That “while” has turned in 18 years.)
Once in my apartment I was thrilled when Tarah offered a “hello” at the sight of me snacking on a piece of bread. However the enchantment wore off as Tarah began to scream anytime I was out of sight. Unaware of how to stop this undesired behavior, I did as many do, I ran back into the room each time Tarah screamed and told him to “Be quiet.” Did it work to stop the screaming? No, and at the same time I found I very much disliked my attempts at punishing reactions to the undesired behavior. I so enjoy having animals respond positively to my presence and did not want to become an unpleasant experience in my bird’s life in order to stop the screaming behavior.
While in the middle of dealing with this problem, I was introduced to the book “Don’t Shoot the Dog” by Karen Pryor. (Also known as the bible of animal trainers) As I read the book, I latched onto two important principles that could help me address the screaming problem. Extinction and differential reinforcement. Extinction is described as the process of discontinuing reinforcing a behavior that has been previously reinforced. In other words part of my strategy should include discontinuing offering reinforcement for screaming. This meant I should no longer run back into the room, or yell at Tarah. The book did not describe the exact situation I was experiencing with my bird. Rather it described the principles and how to apply them to a variety of examples, human and animal. In reading the words, I made the connection that the concepts could apply to any behavior I no longer wanted to continue. Paired with the principle of extinction was the strategy of differential reinforcement of an alternate behavior. In other words, if screaming would no longer work to get a response from me, what would? For Tarah this turned out to be a whistle. In the middle of a session of screaming and me doing my best to ignore this undesired behavior, Tarah offered a “whistle”. I immediately reinforced this by responding with the word “good”. Tarah replied with a scream. This was because at this point he only had one repetition of whistling being positively reinforced and entire of year of screaming being reinforced. However I remained consistent with my strategies and within two weeks time Tarah learned to whistle instead of scream when he wanted a response from me. 17 years later Tarah whistles when he wants to know where I am, when he desires a toy or treat, when I come home, and when he simply seems to be “happy”. The undesired screaming behavior was extinguished and replaced with a whistling sound.
Misty seemed to throw a kink in our now peaceful, well behaved and relatively quiet household. I “knew” from my past experience that I could repeat the process I had implemented with Tarah. However this time proved to be a bit more challenging. Because I was working out of the home at the time, it meant no breaks from dealing with the behavior problem. Every time I left the room I was challenged with having to be focused on training this bird. I was finding this to be very demanding. In addition there were times in the day when mentally I was just not prepared to train. Rather than feeling inspired to train and ready to resolve the behavior problem, I found myself dreading having to leave a room and work with Misty. I decided I needed to better set myself up for success. In getting to know Misty, who other than the screaming behavior, I found to be a delight, I learned that in the past she was accustomed to being covered at night. I took advantage of this and decided to leave Misty covered during the time in the morning I needed to shower and prepare breakfast and bird diets in the kitchen. This allowed me time to peacefully attend to necessary tasks in the morning. After this, I found I was less stressed and more prepared to begin a training session with Misty.
Throughout the day I would treat each time I left the room for whatever reason as a learning opportunity for Misty. I practiced my strategy of extinguishing screaming by not responding to it, followed by reinforcing a desired behavior. In Misty’s case the desired behavior was not a specific sound. Instead I chose to reinforce silence. My plan was to reinforce small increments of time of silence and gradually increase the duration Misty was silent before I would reinforce her with my presence or attention. If I was in the kitchen I would wait just outside of her view while she screamed. At first if she offered a pause in screaming that seemed the slightest second longer than what she had presented in between screams in the past, I would quickly appear and offer generous amounts of attention. I wanted quiet to receive a greater amount of positive reinforcement than screaming if I could. Overtime I gradually increased the amount of time she remained quiet before I would respond. And it worked!
However this was not without challenges. There were times throughout the day when a training session was not convenient for me when I needed to leave the room. Rather than cover Misty I opted for engaging her in other acceptable activity. For example, I often offered Misty a small cardboard box, a rolled up ball of newspaper, a new toy, or a portion of her diet just prior to leaving the room. This gave Misty another activity to focus on instead of screaming. But it also was not an opportunity for Misty to learn that screaming would not gain my attention and quiet would. It was still important to include training sessions throughout the day. The other activity was meant only to offer a break from training for me. This may have also lengthened the amount of time it took overall to teach Misty that screaming no longer would work.
Another challenge in training Misty was that Tarah was in the same room as Misty. Tarah would whistle at times when I left the room. While I wanted to respond to his whistle, I did not want to also then accidentally reinforce Misty’s screaming. My strategy had to be to only reinforce Tarah’s whistle if Misty was not screaming. If I was focused on the training session, I also found I could position myself so that Tarah could see me, but Misty could not. This allowed me to reinforce Tarah’s “good” behavior and wait for Misty to offer silence before responding to her.
Misty’s screaming also appeared to stimulate an occasional screaming behavior in Tarah as well. Fortunately because he had a strong reinforcement history for a whistle, I simply waited for him to offer a whistle before I would respond. Tarah quickly returned to offering a whistle and once again extinguished screaming.
Misty also would on occasion scream for my attention while I was in the room. When this occurred, I simply left the room. Again my thought process was to teach her that screaming now created the opposite response. Instead of people coming to her, people go away. It was also important to reinforce her with attention at times for being quiet while I was in the room as well.
Overall training misty to present silence to gain my attention took about 6 weeks to train. Obviously this was longer than it took to change Tarah's behavior. This could have been a result of the strength of the behavior in each bird based on their individual positive reinforcement histories. It could have also been a result of the fewer training sessions applied to Misty during the given amount of time. It could also be a factor of the birds as individual learners. In any case the end result was a bird that successfully learned to present desired behavior for attention as opposed to the undesired behavior of screaming.
I went through the emotional gamut that many companion parrot owners face when addressing screaming problems. However by focusing on good training strategy and allowing myself opportunities to relieve myself of the stress associated with addressing the problem I was able to attain my desired training goal. Screaming for attention is a behavior problem with a solution. Set yourself up for success and invest the time to train the desired behavior. The end result can be a lifetime of good behavior.
Tips to address screaming for attention
- Extinguish screaming.
- Reinforce any other behavior besides screaming.
- Remember the extinction burst is a good sign! The end might be insight. Change your feeling from frustrated to hopeful when your bird really goes for it.
- If you need to leave the room, but can’t focus on training, offer another positively reinforcing activity prior to leaving the room. This may buy you a short window of time to move freely between rooms without screaming behavior. However you will still need to include training sessions at some point.
- Get some earplugs to help you cope with the screaming during the extinction burst.
- Plan to wait in the other room. Prepare in advance a quiet activity you can do when trying to deal with a screaming session.
- Leave the room immediately when your bird screams for your attention.
- Manage your activities to help set yourself up for success. For example keep the lights off or your bird covered for a few extra minutes in the morning until you are prepared to deal with the screaming with good training strategies.
- Get support. If neighbors are having a problem with your screaming parrot, explain to your neighbors that you are working on training your bird not to scream.
- Count seconds in intervals of silence and increase if possible.
- Focus on fixing the problem instead of your frustration.
- Believe you will get there. This strategy does work.
- Keep notes if necessary to determine how and when this behavior maybe getting reinforced. Eliminate any reinforcement of screaming.
- Offer even more reinforcement for the desired behavior than the undesired behavior would normally receive in the past.
© Copyright 2006. First appeared in the Volume 2 Issue 1 Spring 2006 Good Bird™ Magazine. For permission to reprint contact info@goodbirdinc.com
51 comments:
I have an 11 month old sun conure and a 14 year old indian ring-neck parakeet. My conure has recently "taught" my IRN how to scream...AAHHH! My question is, the bulk of the screaming happens when I get up in the morning (I live alone) or when I come home (unless it's past "bedtime") I suppose I have reinforced this behavior by going directly to the bird room and opening cages as this has been my normal routine. I just end up feeling guilty for leaving them screaming because I work extremely irregular hours (mornings, evenings, and overnights) and don't often get the quality time that I am wanting with them, so I try make every minute count. Any suggestions?
Barbara, I went to your training two years ago in Weaverville, CA. I learned so much about training. I have been able to teach Oscar (Blue and Gold Macaw) turn-around, fetch and many other things. Screaming is the most difficult training I have come across. Oscar and I recently moved in with my new husband and he has a teenager (loud music) and dogs. I think Oscar picked up on all of the noise and it is difficult to train him back out of it. Plus I was not home for 2 months when I first moved in with him. So Oscar probably got reinforced of the bad habits while I was gone. We recently moved into a larger home and now Oscar has his own space. But he still screams. I just had to remind myself of your reminder to keep on working. The only problem is there are the three of us in the house that have to remember that same thing. My new husband was around when we got Oscar at 8 months old. He just never had to deal with him day to day and has a harder time working with such small steps. So I guess I not only have to work with Oscar, but the new husband as well ;)
Thank you for your support to the avian world. I don't know where I would have been without you.
Lyndsay
ok so currently i'm staying with my parents for an extended period of time. my 12 year old amazon has NEVER had a screaming problem before. but my father, who has alzheimers, has reinforced all kinds of negative behavior in her. she now has an out of control screaming problem which he continues to reinforce. the second she hears my dad but doesn't see him, she screams. this he often will whistle or talk back to her. which makes her scream louder. which makes the dog bark. it's pandemonium and i work from home so it's incredibly stressful. it is not possible to involve in any of the training activities described in the article. so far, i've just tried to cover my bird the second she starts screaming, and remove the cover if she is silent, or chattering softly for more than five seconds. whenever my dad is awake and around, this screaming situation is out of hand. whenever he takes a nap or is out of the house, however, she is my normal quiet bird. any other ideas besides covering her whenever she starts screaming?
Hi Dj,
Tough situation with your dad and I am sorry to hear of his struggles and yours. Couple things....Everytime someone walks into the room to cover the bird, if it is paired with the bird screaming, it actually reinforces the behavior. You would have to time your appearance for when the bird is not screaming.
Another suggestion is to run a fan or radio near the room so the bird has a harder time hearing your dad in the other room.
Hope that helps a little!
With 2 amazons in the house, there always seems to be about a 30 minute 'greeting of the sun' in the morning, where they just call back and forth. Once we come downstairs, the 'kids' quiet down and we come in for morning greetings and breakfast. When they get rowdy, we ignore them or walk out of the living room. Once they've quieted down, we peek around the corner and speak to them in a quiet manner, slowly coming to the cage whispering at them. They get all skinny and interested and whisper back and get treats. The squawkings are getting shorter-lived as time goes on, but I accept that kids will be kids and get rowdy every once in a while.
I grew up with six birds in my house hold. We have two red-headed mexican amazons, two african greys, and two cockatiels. The africa greys are wonderful birds, other than they are very aggressive ever since we put a next box on their cage. They love the nest box but will not have babies. I've come to realize that they probably will not have eggs because of the stressful environment. Do you think we should take the nest box away for a couple of years and gain back the good relationship we once had with them? The red-headed mexican amazons are definitely screamers, and i know that's natural for their type of bird, although, the boy, Ricky, i know does it for attention most of the time. When i go into or leave the room he starts screaming. He has always screamed and now that i've started researching things that i can do to stop this behavior, i'm afraid to say that we've been going about this all wrong. If we start giving him treats when he is good, how long do you think it will take for him to stop screaming when i'm around or leave the room for a brief period of time?
Thank You - Sara
I have a Nanday Conure. He is a very sweet bird but his screaming is ear piercing. I have no backround on him as he was purchased at a bird fair and the owner was not present. His screaming is happening when I turn on water, handle a plastic bag, turn on the microwave, any kind of buzzer. At first I thought it was fear but It has been 3months and I was thinking he should be used to these noises. I show him what I am doing so he knows, but it still continues. What can I do to help him get over this thing he has for sounds?
Make it your goal to reinforce him for doing something acceptable before/during the sounds/activities that trigger him to scream. Always think in terms of reinforcing a good behavior he can do instead, rather than trying to punish a bad behavior. You will get a lot farther and have a better relationship with your bird : )
I have a 1 year old cockatiel. Starting about a week ago he began to have a screaming problem. He screams if I am in the room or not. Every 5-10 seconds he emits a piercing call and I don't know why. I live in an apartment and the neighbors do not appreciate 5-7 hours of his constant screaming call. He has food, water, his toys and when he is in the room with me he is on my desk with toys and access to his cage. I am trying your training method, but since he screams whether I am in the room or not I am not sure it is working. Please help, it has been about 5 days and I can't get him to be quiet even for an hour no matter I do.
Hi Marie,
An hour is a super duper long time for a parrot to be quiet : ( I would focus on getting seconds of quiet to reinforce. BUt more importantly work on teaching him another sound or activity will get your attention. Remember he is trying to gain your attention, so rather than withold it, you need to pick an acceptable behavior he can do that will result in your attention. Re-read the article and think about the timing of your delivery of reinforcers so your bird learn what works for get your attention and what doesnt. Same with his toys. Instead of just leaving a pile of toys there, offer them right before you think he might be inclined to scream so he chooses to interact with the toys instead. Make sure they are actually toys he likes too : )
I have a 12 year old Hahn's Macaw which I have used Barbara's training methods to good success except when the bird is screaming. She loves to scream #1. When we talk on the phone, #2. When a visitor comes in the house, #3. When my husband first comes home from work and wants to talk. We live in a very small apartment and unless we want a visitor to come up to our bedroom, we cannot leave Callie screaming. We try to reinforce good sounds when it is just me and my husband but in our small place, when it involves visitors or people on the phone, it is impossible to hear the visitor speak and reinforce non-screaming behavior (if there is any). This makes our efforts to deal with #3 pitifully inadequate. Any further suggestions?
I have a 5 month old sun conure, I have had him since he was 13 weeks old and he recently has started biting. He doesn't lunge at me or draw blood but as soon as he sits on my shoulder he starts nibbling and pinching on my neck, my ears and wherever he can reach. He also bites when he seems to get excited when were playing or if I try to remove him from my shoulder. His wings are not clipped and so trying to catch him to place him into his cage has turned into a chasing game. Is this normal adolecent behaviour? Is there any way I can train him to not bite when he is sitting on me or when i'm removing him from my shoulder. He rarely draws blood but it still hurts! I've tried ignoring but it is very hard, any better suggestions? Thanks.
Yes you can address the problems with your young conure. I am going to direct you to my FAQ page on behavior problems. It has lot of info and can direct you to the appropriate resources. http://www.goodbirdinc.com/parrot-behavior-problems.html
I have a 21-year-old cockatoo, Sydney, my husband and I got when we were newly married. At first all was well - a little screaming around sunset, which we attributed to natural bird behavior. But that was it. About 10 years ago, our careers went into overdrive with lots of travel and long hours.
He started screaming incessantly and destroyed a room in our house. Our fault, I know. :(
My husband, Bob, and I have been working at home for the past two years, and as long as Bob is around, Sydney's screaming in controllable. Bob just tells him "quiet" and Sydney is quiet. But the situation is changing. Bob started a new job in DC this month and I'm in the process of packing us up to move out there. But without Bob here, Sydney feels free to scream anytime I leave the room. And just to clarify - Sydney is my bird. I'm the one that pets him and cuddles with him. He'll let Bob touch him, but it's me he wants. He screams incessantly when I leave the room. I'm working on positive reinforcement and am seeing some improvement, but it is going very slow.
He also HATES our little maltese, Mully, a rescue dog that is partly blind, deaf and has no teeth. Sydney goes bonkers if he sees Mully, especially if Mully is with me. He even bit off part of Mully's tail! Mully just isn't capable of understanding the danger Sydney presents to him, so I can't have them in the same room.
I'm doing my best to reinforce quiet behavior and tolerant behavior of Mully, but I fear that once we move into tighter quarters in DC, the neighbors will revolt and force us to find him a new home.
I don't want that to happen.
Any advice on "starting over" with a problem bird in a new location? Do you know of any parrot behavioral specialists in DC that I can contact for personal help and training?
Also, whenever I do leave the room when Sydney starts to scream (as part of the training), our other dog, Ozzy, who Sydney gets along fine with,starts to howl along with Sydney, which I fear reinforces the screaming. I've started taking Ozzy out of the room with me in an effort to stop that cacophony, but Ozzy is quick to howl on cue - even from a distance.
So do you know of anyone that can help me in the DC area?
Not seeking free advice, but real help.
Angela,
I am going to refer you to Pamela Clark. She offers one on one consultations. She is not in DC but can work with you over the phone and internet. Her email address is clark.exotics@thegrid.net. I do highly recommend her.
Hi,
Your article was very insightful; however, my situation seems to be a bit different. I have an eight year old, female medium sulphur crested cockatoo. I have had her, her whole life. Recently we moved to a new home and she adjusted well, yet she missed her cockatiel companion. She expressed this by saying hello once all people and dogs left the room. She has never really been a screamer. We decided on getting another bird so she would not be alone during the day. We adopted a male african grey. After a week we put them in a double conjoined cage with a divider of bars and plexiglass. About three days after this transition, my cockatoo began screaming. She only screams at night, once the lights and tv are turned of for the night. They are covered at night, and receive plenty of sleep. How do I ignore this yelling at bedtime? Its very difficult to do so when you are ready to sleep. Thank you for your help. -Steph
Hi Stephanie
Keep in mind not all vocalization is about seeking attention. So therefore ignoring it is not always the appropriate choice. I cant tell from your post if that is the problem. You might have to do a bit more observation of the specific triggers and make some adjustment to the environment to address the situation. For example providing a night light or not having the two birds together at night. These are just examples however. Your observations will help identify the real triggers and solutions.
My 45 year old orange winged amazon have never had a screaming problem, but since we moved into a larger apartment he screams all the time.
I know he wants to be outside the cage, and it's OK, I want him to be outside the cage too! BUT, sometimes I want him in the cage - for example when we're making dinner in the kitchen, when we are going to bed for the night, and when we leave our home. In these situations, I want him to be in his cage.
Sometimes he prefers being in his cage, but screams anyway.
I leave the room... he screams.
I am still in the room, but walk too far away from the cage... he screams.
If I am saying good night to him, and turns around to leave the room... he screams.
When I talk to someone else... he screams.
When I wake up in the morning, and he hear me in antother room... he screams.
I understand that he's screaming for attention. And it gives me bad conscience... Still, his voice is very frustrating, it's a VERY loud and repetitived sound he's doing. He can easily scream for 15 minutes non stop (yet I have always walked to his cage after 15 minutes of screaming because I don't want my neighbours to complain, but I am sure he could go on forever!)
I don't want him to believe that screaming is the only way he can get my attention! (and I don't want my neighbours to hate me ;-))
After readning this article, I understand that I unconsciously have reinforced the behavior when I:
* become frustrated and "schhhh!" at him
* can't stand it anymore and puts a blanket on his cage
* can't stand it anymore, gives up and walks to him and cuddle with him.
But I want to change :)
Am I doing the right thing if I:
* ignore him when he is screaming ---> and when he gets quiet, I immediately walk to the cage and give him all the attention I can give him
* walk away from the cage when/if he starts screaming.
* gives him a sunflower seed when he is talking with his normal voice.
:)
I was given a Cockatiel and the lady said he's VERY loud. ( i live in a studio apt)i brought him home and put him in a cage next to a huge cage where i already had another (very quiet) cockatiel. for about 3 weeks, He did alot of talking to my quiet one, then i let him out and the 1st thing he did was go into the quiet ones huge cage ( both males) and now the only time he yells is when i leave his eyesight, then he flies to my shoulder and quiets down. Now they both live happily together in the 6 foot tall cage.
So having a 'buddy' worked for me.
hi there,
i live in australia and have a grey/pink male galah approx. 3 years of age.
his screaming is driving me crazy to the point where i yell and scream, leave the room, or spray him with water just to get him to shut up.
i cannot do anything with out him screeching, i cant leave the house without hearing him screaming half way down the street, it is to the point where i am embarassed to have visitors over because i am at my wits end.
please help me i feel like crying no matter how many vets we take him to no-one can help
Hi Sarah,
Definitely read this article and follow the methods to the letter and it will work. But you will have to stop yelling back, squirting, etc at the bird. Those actually reinforce the behavior. Read the article again for a more detailed explanation. Remember you need to stop reinforcing the undesired behavior by responding and heavily reinforce something esle that you find acceptable. You are basicaly going to teach screaming doesnt work to get my attention, but something else does.
I recently purchased a 12 yr old blue and gold macaw (Rosa) from a pet store. She was letting me touch her and was stepping up. After having her here for 6wks now she is starting where she doesnt want to step up anymore, we DID stop most of her biting problem but now she doesnt even want me to hold her. I had her wings, feet and bill taken care of a few wks after i got her and the person that did it said they knew my bird from the pet store and said they were glad that I bought Rosa because they knew she had been tormented at the pet store and not treated very well. Any suggestions on how to get her to trust me and let me hold her again?
Yes! : ) Time to get started on a positive reinforcement training program. This will help you build trust. Here is a link to more info
http://www.goodbirdinc.com/parrot-behavior-problems.html
Hi Linnea,
You are on the right track. Just remember to never reinforce the undesired sound and heavily reinforce accetpable sounds. You might have to really pay attention to the littlest things you do that might be reinforcing the undesired sound and eliminate those too. Dont give up! He is just doing what he thinks will work. Now teach him something else will work.
My birds don't get along with each other!!! A year ago, I adopted a green cheek conure (Manolito, 18 months old)... He is very hyper and friendly... few months later, I decided to get a friend for him, another conure, a fancy pineapple (Carmelita, 16 months)... she is a little bit needy and loud but they started to get along since the beginning... Manolito welcomed her and they became very close... they share the same cage, they used to feed and pet each other all the time, take baths together, etc., at least for the past 10 months or so. Two weeks ago, I adopted another conure, Valentin (9 months), he is a sun conure, he is very shy but friendly, he is a petstore bird, he wants to be in his own cage all the time. I know maybe I shouldn't get Valentin, but I am in love with him, and since the very first moment I saw him I wanted to give him a good and loving life.
OK, I am going to tell you the problems I have right now and I hope you can help me!
1. Since the very first moment Valentin got home, Carmelita was very curious and excited, she wanted to pet him right away, but he was very shy, he did like being petted, so he screamed every time she was trying to do it.
2. Manolito didn't welcome Valentin very well... He was curious but not jumpy and every single time that Manolito tried to get close to Valentin, Valentin screamed, and Manolito got scared and kind of irritated.
3. Carmelita is getting territorial with the new friend. When they are out of the cage, She doesn't let Manolito to get close to Valentin, she puff up her feathers and bites him, to scare him away.
4. Manolito is acting grumpy, every single time he has the chance, he goes and picks on Valentin, I don't know if he actually bites him, or if he is trying to pet Valentin, but Valentin screams all the time when Manolito does on of his approaches.
5. Valentin is screaming too much, he screams when he is being petted by Manolito, He screams when Carmelita is flying away from him, and then Carmelita and Manolito scream because they don't like Valentin's screams, and now the house is a nightmare.
6. Sometimes, out of the blue, they start fighting, Carmelita vs. Valentin, Manolito vs. Valentin, or Carmelita vs. Manolito. They don't bite each other but they seem very agressive, and once again, Valentin screams very loud and that is frustrating me a lot.
I am very concerned about my birds, and I want them to get along with each other, no screaming and no fighting. I got one of the dvd's from a bird/tricks web page, and I started the training diet, my guys are picky eaters but they are getting there. I am spending time with all of them. Early in the morning, I take them out of their cages and I sit on my couch and I give them they favorite fruit, they eat together, and they behave good. I am doing my best to train them, but I don't know how to start, I don't know if I can train them together, or if I have to do it, one by one. Anyway, once again, thank you very much for your time and I hope you can help me.
Hello,
I am sorry to hear about your birds. Some things to keep in mind. Parrots form strong pair bonds in the wild. Although they flock under certain circustances it is not common for a group of three to enjoy each others company unless they are offspring and parents. While I suppose you can focus on specific behaviors to train them to present in the presence of each other, I think the reality is you will find this more work than than you will want to put in. If you want them out together I would provide places they can be that are far away from one another and include tons of reinforcing things on those places, such as novel toys and foraging opps so they dont feel triggered to attack or scream at the other bird. Trick training isnt the key to success on this one. Not that there isnt value in it, but that is not what this is about. There are some biological forces you are fighting against that have to do with natural history of parrots. I suggest you read my book The Parrot Problem Solver and the article by Pamela Clark in the free sample of Good Bird Magazine at www.goodbirdmagazine.com. If you are still stuck pamela offers private consultations, her site is www.pamelaclarkonline.com I also have an article about training birds to get along in this back issue of Good Bird Magazine http://www.goodbirdinc.com/toc7-2.html and http://www.goodbirdinc.com/parrot-store-magazine.html
Check those out to help give you more insights. All the best!
My 11 year old Eclectus had lots of behaviour issues, all of which were reinforced by our ignorance. We are slowly working through them. Screaming biting attacking. The biting and attacking me has all but stopped and he will now step up without drawing blood. The screaming as soon as I am out of his sight is still an issue. Just when I think we are winning, he will go back to screaming, we have been working on this for a couple of months and positively reinforcing his good sounds and his talking. Not sure, but perhaps I,m doing something wrong.
Congrats on your progress with your ecky. Take a moment and pat yourself on the back : ) Remeber reinforcing desired sounds is half the equation. The other half is being extremely diligent that nothing your bird views as reinforcing happens when screaming or right after screaming. I wrote another article about the tiny ways we reinforce screaming and dont realize it in a recent issue of Good Bird Magazine Here is a link to the table of contents. http://www.goodbirdinc.com/toc7-3.html and here is a link to back issues http://www.goodbirdinc.com/parrot-store-magazine.html. Dont give up! You will get there with some fine tuning.
I have a 30 year old YNA that was cagebound for 25 years until we rescued her 2-1/2 months ago. She is very attached to me and of course screams when I leave her view. She is on my husbands last nerve and I need to do something quick to make it stop. Is there any hope for a 30 year old bird to stop this behavior?
Yes! Just follow the instructions in the blog. I have no idea how old Tarah was when I acquired her. She was already adult. And Misty was also an older bird. Keep in mind behavior is not a permanant condition. It is always under the influence of consequences. If those consequences change, then the behavior changes. So as stated in the article, stop reinforcing screaming and heavily reinforce something else that is acceptable.
I have a 7 year old Green Cheek Conure. We had our first son 11 months ago and ever since he came home, our Green Cheek has been screaming non stop. Most of the time he refuses to come out of the cage and when I finally get him out and put him on my shoulder, he still screams. Do you have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss on how to stop the screaming.
Hi Barbara I have a 60+year old sulphur crested cockatoo who has always been in our family but recently came to live with me. Everything is going well but he has started screaming for my attention when he is inside, I will apply your technique. Can you offer any advice on care needs of older parrots. He has an out door aviary and I bring him inside at night. also do you think older parrots can learn new words?
Hi Barbara I have a 60+year old sulphur crested cockatoo who has always been in our family but recently came to live with me. Everything is going well but he has started screaming for my attention when he is inside, I will apply your technique. Can you offer any advice on care needs of older parrots. He has an out door aviary and I bring him inside at night. also do you think older parrots can learn new words?
I dont have any specific recommendations as far as training goes for an older bird other than being aware of their physical limitations and be sure to stay in touch with a good avian vet. In my experience unless they have a history of being reinforced for offering new words they tend to offer less as they get older. However if he offers any new sounds you like be sure to reinforce him. That can get you on the path of getting more vocal behaviors. He is not too old to learn. A 43 year old cockatoo i know recently learned too allow injections without restraint. pretty impressive!
We have a new cockatoo to us, and though the owner says the bird was always quiet for her, she is anything but for us. Our concern isn't as much during the day, but when she screams throughout the night. The old owner says the bird would wake herself up and "Be Scared" so when she would sound off in the middle of the night she would go down, uncover the bird, coo and cluck until she calmed down. I've tried weening her from that, but she's just not letting me. She's screaming more, and for longer periods of time when I try ignoring. Any suggestions for my "Night Terrors" as I call them? Thanks so much!
We recently adopted a new bird. She seems to have night terrors, where after we cover her for the evening, we have a few hours of quiet and then screaming in the middle of the night. The old owner says she would go and coo and cluck until the bird settled, cover her back up and then head back to bed. I want to wean her of this, but she has gotten worse than ever. We have had other birds, 2 of which have been cockatoos, but neither have screamed at night like this. Please help me before I lose what sanity I have left! Thanks so much!
Hi Barbara! I'm so happy I found this post. I have a really big problem with my parrots. I have two white-fronted amazons. The male, Beto, is 15 years old, and the female, Paulie, is 11 years old. They both safe the same cage and get along fairly well. My problem started since I left home for college. They are left most of the day alone, and my dad is the only one that stays at home during the day. I noticed that Beto, who used to speak a few words, is not doing it anymore and both of them scream too much. Unfortunately, it occurs when my dad speaks on the phone and in the morning when he's home. The real problem is that I want to start training them out of the screaming and reinforce the whistling and singing they used to do when I was home, but my dad has been aggressive to both of them. Every time they start the screaming, he moves the cage aggressively and opens a door that isolates them from the rest of the house in order to quiet them down. He's really frustrated with their screaming, but it's going to be too challenging for me to train them if every good behavior is reinforced by me while he reinforces the screaming. Any ideas to counter act his actions? Also, I noticed Beto has been loosing too many feathers. All his chest is bare and you can't see any green feathers, just white tiny ones. What could have happened to him?
I'm glad I found this page ... as I don't feel so alone! Zowie is a 16yr old sun conure ... So you know when she screams she is loud!
She has always let out a call when the sun is setting ... I'm AOK with that .. And we live in a rural area - so when she sees a hawk ... she lets her flock know.
But this year she has started to scream to get my attention! She did this once before about 10 yrs ago when my partner suddenly passed away. I am sure she was picking up on my anxious vibes. I ignored her then when she did it and she finally stopped. But at that time - I was not at home all day long ... so it was a bit easier for me to do this.
About 7-8 months ago she has started screaming to get my attention. She is in the same room with me during the day. I work on the computer and I am having a very hard time ignoring her! At first I tried - I would get up ... go into another room. Wait for her to get quiet and come back in and give her some attention... that worked for awhile but now she is much worse and I can't keep walking away from my computer - I will never get any work done!!
So ... yes I have resorted to covering her when she gets loud. I feel bad doing this ... so I end up leaving an opening for her to see out and she does get quiet. I uncover her and many times in a few minutes we are back to her screaming!
I have also tried new toys but that doesn't work
I'm in a relationship now for 7 years and while sometimes she will do it with Carol ... mostly she does it just with me! If she knows I'm in the house .. she starts screaming. If I go shopping Carol says she is good!
She has also been going to the bottom of the cage and tearing up the papers ... making it like a nest! She likes to hide under paper towels - and I'm happy to give them to her as she does get quiet for awhile!
I know she is a she cause when she was about 2 she laid an egg. But at the time there was no nesting behavior and she never wanted anything to do with the egg!
When this first started I was thinking maybe an egg ... but this has been going on for over 7 months now!
Sometimes I swear she thinks I am her mate! And she loves to go into my shirt and would probably stay there all day ... but I really need to get some things done!
I guess I have to go back to leaving when she screams ... Truthfully - I am not looking forward to this ...
I have a very well behaved 2 year old Blue and Gold Macaw....when we are home. Our neighbours say that when we go out, she starts screaming. She has toys of various styles (chewing, puzzle toys, foraging items). We now bring her inside when we go out and turn on the radio. We are hoping the walls reduce the noise for the neighbours. The neighbours say that things seem better but the bird will still scream albeit muffled for the neighbours now.
What can I do about my screaming bird even though I am not home to hear it or modify the behaviour?
Thanks in advance
It may be labor intensive at first, but if you follow the suggestions in this article it really does work. It is about being consistant. Remember when you go back to reinforcing it once in awhile you actually teach her to be more persistnt in her screaming. You are teaching her that sometimes it works, so keep doing it! Also read the articlce on hormonal behavior in the free sample of good bird magazine. www.goodbirdmagazine.com As it does sound like you may want to address her reproductive behavior as well.
Sorry if that post was confusing. The last comment was meant for Ellen. But it does apply to some of the others.
Hi Barbara,
I have a 7 year old Goffins cockatoo. She started running from me after I forcefully administered required oral medications to her for a week. Now she is fearful of my hands and running from me every time I try to pick her up. She steps up for other people just fine. I do not know what to do. She is a peaky eater and will not respond to a treat to come to me (I tried it many times.) What should I do? Thank you very much for all your help.
Hi Barbara,
I have a 7 year old Goffins cockatoo. She started running from me after I forcefully administered required oral medications to her for a week. Now she is fearful of my hands and running from me every time I try to pick her up. She steps up for other people just fine. I do not know what to do. She is a peaky eater and will not respond to a treat to come to me (I tried it many times.) What should I do? Thank you very much for all your help.
Two things.....read this blog http://goodbirdinc.blogspot.com/2009/04/parrot-training-diet.html and then definitely go to my FAQ page for behavior problems for resources to help you rebuild trust and get step up on track http://www.goodbirdinc.com/parrot-behavior-problems.html
Barbara,
We have a 12 yr old male eclectus who is very attached to my husband. He doesn't scream when we leave the room, but squawks very loudly when my husband comes in the room, or is even visible to him (he also seems to "see" him when his cage is covered, or can at least hear when my husband's in the room).
His cage is in our family room, which is open to the kitchen, and I spend most of my time there when I'm home. We also have 2 other parrots in the room, though they don't spend time out together.
We've thought of moving his cage to another room, but the only option is putting him upstairs in a spare bedroom where he would have very little contact with people.
We've tried ignoring the squawks and only responding when he talks nicely (talking to him across the room and/or treats), but the squawking hasn't diminished.
Is it possible he doesn't think there's a difference between his loud squawk and talking in a quieter voice?
My husband takes him out of his cage and spends a little time with him a couple times a week, but that only keeps him quiet for about 30 minutes afterwards.
Any suggestions for changing this behavior? This causes a great deal of stress in our house, to the point that we're considering finding him a new home...
Barbara,
We have a 12 yr old male eclectus who is very attached to my husband. He doesn't scream when we leave the room, but squawks very loudly when my husband comes in the room, or is even visible to him (he also seems to "see" him when his cage is covered, or can at least hear when my husband's in the room).
His cage is in our family room, which is open to the kitchen, and I spend most of my time there when I'm home. We also have 2 other parrots in the room, though they don't spend time out together.
We've thought of moving his cage to another room, but the only option is putting him upstairs in a spare bedroom where he would have very little contact with people.
We've tried ignoring the squawks and only responding when he talks nicely (talking to him across the room and/or treats), but the squawking hasn't diminished.
Is it possible he doesn't think there's a difference between his loud squawk and talking in a quieter voice?
My husband takes him out of his cage and spends a little time with him a couple times a week, but that only keeps him quiet for about 30 minutes afterwards.
Any suggestions for changing this behavior? This causes a great deal of stress in our house, to the point that we're considering finding him a new home...
I find that what most people are inadvertantly reinforcing the behavior but dont realize it. Pay very close attention to what you are doing when your bird screams. This is what is maintaining the behavior. Reinforcing it only once in a while make it more resitant to stopping. It takes a great deal of attention to detail and diligence to make sure you are not reinforcing the behavior. The "tell" that you are inadvertantly reinforcing it is that the bird is still using it to get your attention : ) Behavior that is reinforced is repeated.
Hi
Your article was very helpful to me . i have a very young pink and grey galah that i have just recently brought. He is an amazing young bird. but i am having troubles stopping him from screeching . i think one of the triggers is attention but at times he just randomly does it solidly for about 10 mins . particularly at night and in the mornings. i am worried the neighbours will complain . i have brothers and my dad who tell him to shut up. i have told them to stop this but they wont listen .i guess my question is this: What could i use as positive reinforcement and what other things normally trigger a bird to screech ? Should i whistle from another room while he is screetching or just completely ignore him until he stops ? Thankyou for your help !
Hi Ash,
Check the blog again for the part about Misty and what I did when I left the room. If you have predictable times when she screams what I did with Misty will work for that. Also timing is important, dont respond when she is screaming only she makes an acceptable sound. Print out the blog for your family so they can help get on board with the strategy for solving the problem.
I volunteer at a zoo where they have a male umbrella cockatoo, which they did not have from birth. Like many cockatoos, he has loads of personality but he also has a screaming and biting issue. While the zookeepers work on training him, his handlers are highly trained volunteers who are not always there on a fixed schedule. It is difficult to set up any reinforcement program because of the variation in programs, schedules, and volunteers at the zoo. I am a new volunteer and am hoping I can build a good relationship with him starting from a blank slate. Any suggestions how to best deal with this bird in this type of situation? Thanks.
Hi YS,
The behavior problems you mention are modifiable. The bird can also learn to present those problems for some people and not others based on the reinforcement history with those individuals and how those specific individuals are responding. In other words he can learn to be well behaved for some and not for others. The ideal scenario would be to try to build consistancy between his handlers and use the same approach to keep him well behaved and not needing to use biting or screaming to gain desired consequences (or avoid aversive ones) Maybe you can be the one to get every one on board onto a path of good behavior : )
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